Am I the only one who think that LGBT community is not about LGBT people anymore?


Welcome to Trans Community in 2014

  1. where having sex dysphoria is “privilege”
  2. where transitioning is internalised cissexism
  3. where everyone should probably chose to be nonbinary
  4. where there are no “men” and “women” anymore, just afab and amab people
  5. where being trans is “thinking about gender”
  6. where “species dysphoria” is a serious thing
  7. where not agreeing with trans woman is transmisogyny
  8. where the only people who still remember what is it all about are called ‘scum’ by angry teenagers
  9. where saying transsexualism is medical condition is ableism
  10. where you are scum for wanting to live as cis people 
  11. where all trans men are scum and oppressors
  12. where trans women are proud of their giant penises
  13. where trans men are born with male privilege
  14. where biological sex is a social construct
  15. where dysphoric people have no right to talk about trans issues
  16. where people confuse one’s gender with personality
  17. where people identifying with demons and robots are valid
  18. where gender is an “identity” and most important thing about person
  19. where you have no right to refuse sex ‘non dysphoric masculine presenting’ trans woman
  20. where trans men are accused of transmisoginy and transphobia
  21. where it’s ok to hate trans men, to say they don’t deserve any help, to trigger their dysphoria and to misgender them
  22. where 13 year old feminine demigirls are far more oppressed than dysphoric trans people
  23. where the biggest issue of trans movement is petition to acknowledge +50 gender identities
  24. where people who like their all sex characteristics want to transition and hate ‘cis doctors’ for gate-keeping
  25. where this absurd division between “non dysphoric trans people” and “dysphoric trans people” really exist 
  26. where “he” and “she” pronouns are not gendered, but refusing to call someone “sherlockself” is misgendering

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yourstrulyafterall: Hahahaha did they really just link you to a tumblr text post to prove that rape culture isn't real? Hahaha and then in the same "argument" they throw in "just because you say something it doesn't mean its real." HAHAHAH. I don't even know what they want you to address anymore, and I don't think they can see you pretty much served them over their snotty sense of superiority.




Yeah it just boils down to the fact that they’re awful human beings incapable of empathy. They’re dwindling in numbers though so let them hang on to their bullshit ideologies and lose any shred of dignity they may have once possessed.

How about the fact that we persecute rape with more zeal than any other crime?

Beyond reasonable doubt doesn’t apply to rape.

Feminists wish to slander accused names before convicted. 

Feminists against beyond reasonable doubt when it’s male rapists.

Feminist changes mind on rape culture when her son is falsely accused.

Universities strip basic rights from the accused. 

Change federal rules of evidence for men accused of rape.

Or that we continuously allow the lives of falsely accused to get ruined, and fail to persecute false accusers.

Women sent man to jail, won millions, then discovered her claim was false. She asks to let bygones be bygones. Because she was worried about her money.

Boy accused of rape, found innocent, but committed suicide.

Innocent mane urged to accept plea bargain.

Boy found innocent and killed by gang

Woman makes 11 false rape allegations.

Boy beaten to a pulp after being found innocent

Girlfriend cries rape when dad finds out about her BF, he gets murdered.

Mohammad Asif: “I keep thinking, ‘I just dropped her off, she was just a normal passenger, why has she done that?” -accused by said passenger of raping her at knifepoint - would be in jail except was exonerated by voice recording app on hsi phone.

Soner Yasa: four drunk women reported to police that he had sexually assaulted them as a ploy to refuse to pay a $13 cab fare- Once again he’d be in jail if not for video surveillance in his cab.  Over $13

A University’s Shame: How Brown betrayed one of its students

Park Si Hoo Is Cleared Of All Charges Stemming From Anti-Defamation Lawsuit Filed By The CEO Of His Former Talent Agency

False accusation will cost woman $55,000

Husband falsely accused of child rape wins $1.2 million from ex-spouse

The blogosphere is abuzz with controversy over a Beaverton, Oregon’s judge’s sentencing of a 19-year-old woman for filing false rape charges.

Man Awarded $852,000 in Civil Court After Ex-Wife Falsely Accuses Him of Sexual Abuse

The Aftermath of the Duke Lacrosse Rape Case

People exonerated after being falsely accused. 

Schoolboy, 16, died after he was falsely accused of raping a girl by mobs who terrorised his neighbourhood

Virginia Woman Falsely Accuses Man Of Rape And Sends Him Away For Four Years Before Recanting … Given Just 60 Days In Jail To Be Served On Weekends

And since I know this is only in reference to a rape culture toward women victims, how about the fact that men can be sued for not having sex, women use sex as bargaining chip, and people view women demanding sex as empowering? 

Or the plethora of anti rape ads we have? 

In 1990, this anti-rape PSA aired.

Another 90s anti-rape PSA that aired in Arizona.

In 2013, this anti-rape PSA went viral.

An anti-rape PSA in the UK.

MTV ran a PSA against human trafficking.

The United States Navy ran an anti-sexual assault PSA.

In 1994, My So-Called Life’s pilot episode dealt with near date rape.

In 2003, Dawson’s Creek dealt with attempted date rape.

In 1996, Party of Five dealt with attempted date rape.

In 1989, 21 Jump Street ran an episode where a female character who played a cop is raped.

The popular TV show Degrassi ran this PSA before an episode dealing with sexual assault.

Kurt Cobain explains that Nirvana’s song “Rape Me” is an anti-rape song.

In 1991, Sublime released an anti-date rape song on their 40oz to Freedom single called “Date Rape”.

In 1991, Tori Amos released a song about rape on her Little Earthquakes album called “Me and a Gun”.

In 1993. Tupac released a song on his Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. album called “Keep Ya Head Up” questioning how men treat women, as he says, "Since we all came from a woman / Got our name from a woman and our game from a woman / I wonder why we take from our women / Why we rape our women, do we hate our women? / I think it’s time to kill for our women"

In 2001, Aus-Rotten released a song on their The Rotten Agenda album called “The Second Rape” discussing rape and how the justice system deals with rape.

In 2006, Cancerslug released a song called “Within Her Skin” about a rape victim who killed her rapist, bought a gun, and became a vigilante killing other rapists. This is reminiscent of serial killer Aileen Wuornos.

In 2001, Immortal Technique released a haunting song on his Revolutionary Volume 1 album called “Dance with the Devil” about gang violence, drugs, and rape.

Life Goes On in 1992 has an episode dealing with rape.

Beverly Hills 90210 dealt with many issues like gay rights, animal rights, domestic violence and yes, date rape.

In 1988, ABC ran an After School Special about date rape.

Mark-Paul Gosselaar, better known as Zack from Saved by the Bell, appeared in a TV film addressing date rape.

In 1995, the tv show Blossom ran an episode about date rape.

In 1995, the film Higher Learning showed a scene where a college woman is raped. The rapist is later confronted by a group of men and forced to apologize while being outed as a sexual predator in front of his frat.

In Kill Bill, the Bride is raped while in a coma, facilitated by Buck, a male nurse. When she awakens from her coma she bites off the tongue of her attacker, then murders Buck by slamming his head in the door of the hospital room. When I saw this in theaters, people cheered when she got revenge.

In Cape Fear, the rapist character is portrayed as evil. In the 1962 film he is sent back to prisonin the 1991 film he is left to drown.

In the 1996 film Eye for an Eye, the rapist is portrayed as evil and later killed for his crimes.

In the 1972 film Deliverance, a man is raped by two hillbillies and later murdered for their crimes.

In Last House on the Left, the rapists are portrayed as evil and later murdered for their crimes in both the 1972 film and 2009 film.

In the 1971 film Dirty Harry, Clint Eastwood’s character Harry Callahan is quoted as saying,"Yeah, well, when an adult male is chasing a female with intent to commit rape, I shoot the bastard that’s my policy." 

In the 1983 film Sudden Impact, Dirty Harry murders more rapists in the name of justice.

In Straw Dogs, the rapists are portrayed as evil and murdered for their crimes in both the1971 film and 2011 film.

In the 1995 film Braveheart, a man is allowed to enact revenge on a soldier who raped his wife. William Wallace also goes on a killing spree after his secret wife is executed for rejecting a soldier that was attempting to rape her.

In the 2007 film Teeth, the lead character seeks out rapists in order to bite their dicks off with her vagina plus teeth.

There are currently over 300 Law and Order: Special Victims Unit episodes, the majority of them portraying rapists as only men.

The NO EXCUSES campaign was started in 2011 addressing issues like rape in the military.

The Onion satirized the media coverage of the Steubenville rape with this video that aired on Comedy Central.

Or the fact that rape is no where near as common as feminists make it out to be.

1 in 5 is bullshit.

Most feminists backed studies are bullshit.

Rape culture is bullshit. and stats prove it.

Anywhere from 97-8% of rape claims are false.

1-12 also bullshit.

Just how many men are rapists?

RAINN disses rape culture.

Campus rape myth

…..the irony of her response is hilarious.

cacklewhore: But what the fuck is a radical feminist...? If woman uses a little power to get her opinions heard (which have been completely disregarded by stupid sexist men like you) they suddenly become radical and irrational?? Wow. I'm ashamed to live in a world with such ignorant ass people.


The feeling is mutual I assure you. If you think all feminism is doing is voicing opinions you haven’t been paying the fuck attention. 

Feminists threaten to kill woman for saying men need abuse shelters.

Feminists prevent a meeting about male suicide.

Feminists stage mock murders to scare men. 

Feminist attacks male cartoonist and is hailed a hero of feminism.

Feminists shut down forum for battered husbands.

Propaganda campaign against male fathers wanting custody.

Feminists wish to slander accused names before convicted. 

Try to shut down female prisons.

Create rape laws that exclude female rapists.

Make it impossible to charge women with rape.

Feminists against equal custody.

Female felons should serve home sentences.

Told judges to be lenient on women.

Feminists cover up female domestic violence.

Feminists don’t want the gov to help unemployed men.

Feminists launch campaigns to help girls only while boys are doing worse in every facet of education.

Males who were raped as a child still have to pay child support.

Women should have the right to put a child up for adoption before the father gets custody.

Feminists against beyond reasonable doubt when it’s male rapists.

5 rights feminism ignores for men.

Feminists blame males for their abuse.

The primary aggressor clause where only men get charged with abuse.

Shame men into going to war.

Feminists dismiss female child rapists.

Feminists say men can’t talk about domestic abuse.

Feminists mock a man who has his dick cut off.

Strawmanning MRA members.

feminists attack church.

Feminists transphobia

Feminists slander the MRM


And again, 

Call them terrorists.

Feminists say Men can’t be raped. 

Feminists defend female raping minor.

Feminist defends why fucking an 8 year old boy isn’t rape.

Feminists primary aggressor clause discriminates against males.

Feminists cover up female domestic abuse stats.

Woman smashing bottle in mans face in public. Nobody gives a fuck.

Jezebel mocks men who are abused.

Feminists make sure the gov doesn’t spend money on male shelters or male research.

Female on male abuse in public is at best ignored, and at worst celebrated.

Public stops a man from abusing a woman in public, same crowd laughs when the roles are reversed. 

No funding for male shelter. 

Founder of Canadas only male shelter for abuse forced to close due to lack of funding before committing suicide. 

Teen Charged with Sexting Girlfriend will be Forced to get an Erection via an Injection and be Photographed by Police


So, in Virginia, a 17-year-old and his 15-year-old girlfriend were sexting with each other. The boy gets arrested on two felony charges,…

Anonymous: Who's users are more stupid 4chan or tumblr(not that all users of 4chan and tumblr are dumb)




You’re literally comparing an imageboard (I assume you’re talking about /b/ and not the entirety of 4chan because that would be ridiculous, the audiences vary too much for that) that posts (This isn’t cherrypicked by the way, I went there again for the first time in probably 2 years just yesterday, and this what I saw on the first 3 pages of /b/)

  • irl gore
  • livestreams of women being fucked by dogs
  • (links/torrents) to child porn
  • image
  • image

"Waaah!  Stop picking on tumblr!  4chan is at fault for EVERYTHING!"

Honey, were not aware that it was idiots from tumblr that deliberately went to 4chan to stir up shit in the first place?  They went in determined to “shut down” 4chan.  The saddest part of all?  It was someone on /pol/ that made the “#shutdown4chan” blog AS A JOKE.  Most of us (upon realizing this) thought nothing of it (beyond finding it incredibly pointless).  People on tumblr were literally inadvertently baited into taking part in reckless, misguided behavior, and on a national holiday, no less.  If they couldn’t tell a an obvious troll from someone with genuine intent, what exactly does that say about them?  They have seriously become cartoonish exaggerations.  Frankly, I think people around here should be legitimately concerned about what other ill-intentioned “crusades” the social justice morons on this site might willfully commit if they believe they have enough “support” for it.

Also, I highly doubt that there were links to child pornography, as 4chan cooperates with the FBI to track down people attempting to circulate such material.  In fact, they were the ones who took down a child pornography ring.  If there was someone trying to circulate child pornography, they were probably banned immediately, and are likely soon to be apprehended.  As for the allegations of bestiality videos, I’m guessing you forgot about a couple of years ago, when people would intentionally send their friends links to 2 Girls, 1 Cup, or any number of “shock sites” on the internet.  There’s a difference between people of truly disreputable conduct, and a bunch of presumably college-aged numbskulls just sitting around trying to gross each other out.

Also, I can’t help but laugh at how seriously you’re taking the words of anonymous posters on an image board.  If you really think these people honestly believe or would take part in half the things they claim, then I’ve got a bridge in San Francisco to sell you.  Anyone with half a brain knows that none of these chucklefucks would have the cojones to act that way to anyone’s face.  Meanwhile, you’re trying to use this to “prove” something.  Someone, please - catch me if I die laughing on my feet.

  • (meanwhile on tumblr, 10000 posts about helping suicidal people  and hotlines)


  • a bunch of people who want to be called “fairy” instead of “him” or whatever
  • a bunch of marginalized people not wanting to be called words that have a long history of suffering, violence, murder and rape behind them
  • human beings wanted to be treated (and treating each other) as human beings


The fact that you’re trying to make it seem as if tumblr is this innocent little hiding place for the most oppressed people in history is honestly sickening.  There’s a difference between actual persecution, and attention-starved teenagers lowering the value of persecution in order to apply it to themselves in place of actually being an interesting enough person for anyone to give a shit about.

Frankly, if you’re looking for a place to find human beings being treated like human beings, tumblr is pretty much the LAST place you should be looking.  The thing you’re missing here is that tumblr has become an entirely hostile environment.  If you haven’t noticed this yet, then you’re either hardly ever here, or you must follow only a specific subset of people.  Also, let’s go over a few of the entirely bullshit things tumblr has done:

This is nowhere near the tip of the iceberg of foul shit that people here are perpetrating under the guise of “activism”.

Meanwhile, /b/ is flipping out over some some trolls from /pol/, making plans pathetic enough to make tumblr laugh at them…

Honey, I’m pretty sure /b/ stopped giving a shit a long time ago. 

  • Tumblr takes every goddamn thing as though it’s deadly fucking serious, to the point where people are afraid to voice their opinions on their favorite cookies, lest it somehow “offends” someone.


Here you go - People literally screaming “sexism” on a post with a gif of a fucking soda machine.

Oh, and by the way, here is only a tiny sampling of the things tumblr spreads around without checking the facts behind.

  • If you like something, and express it, 4chan will tell you it’s terrible just to piss you off.Do this on Tumblr, and someone will claim you’re “oppressing them” simply because they don’t happen to like it.


Here ya go - here’s someone throwing a fit over the “I came out to have a good time, etc.” joke.  And if you seriously haven’t already seen worse, then you must have been under some kind of a quarantine.


Honestly?  Tumblr.

A lot of the people on 4chan will act like unapologetic assholes, but at least they’re not self-righteous about it.  And, if shown legitimate proof of something, (based on what I’ve seen) they’ll usually accept it, whereas Tumblr prefers to pass around bogus statistics, and cling to emotional pleas, rather than logic.

4chan often behaves like idiots, but they’re aware that they’re behaving like idiots.  That’s the whole point.  People go there to be anonymous assholes on purpose.  Meanwhile, Tumblr is filled with bullies and rejects that think they’re doing the world a goddamn favor by acting like snide, entitled little shit mongers.

4chan will call you a “faggot” regardless of gender identity, which appears to be generally understood to the point where no one even gives a shit anymore.

Tumblr becomes irrationally outraged when you somehow don’t already magically know the “preferred pronouns” of someone you hadn’t even heard of before, even when these “pronouns” are complete crocks of shit like “bunself”, or “princesself”.  They then become indignant if you don’t fall to your knees and cater to every last one of their demented little demands, and treat them like the extra special little snowflake that they think they are.

4chan fields obvious inflammatory comments with relative ease, simply by dismissing them as stupid, humoring them for a laugh, or ignoring them from the start.  When vitriol does happen, at least it’s mostly reserved to two morons having a witless tennis match of words while everyone else goads them on for the sake of entertainment.

Tumblr takes every goddamn thing as though it’s deadly fucking serious, to the point where people are afraid to voice their opinions on their favorite cookies, lest it somehow “offends” someone.

4chan will bust your nuts until you can prove a claim you’ve made.

Tumblr will gladly make viral the “news” that the sky has suddenly turned neon green, and is raining Nickelodeon Gak - if there’s enough of an emotional, impassioned plea to do so.  Especially if they claim their “child” or “younger sibling” saw (and was upset by) this “incident”.

If you like something, and express it, 4chan will tell you it’s terrible just to piss you off.

Do this on Tumblr, and someone will claim you’re “oppressing them” simply because they don’t happen to like it.  Then, through emotional manipulation, they try to spread the mindset that you’re somehow “scum” just for enjoying something that they don’t.

While I wouldn’t recommend it as a place to go to “have fun”, 4chan has actually become more welcoming than tumblr at this point.

And that’s just fucking sad.

  • While I wouldn’t recommend it as a place to go to “have fun”, 4chan has actually become more welcoming than tumblr at this point.


No really - I want the examples you’re talking about that I magically haven’t come across in 3 years. Because I usually ignore the dumb stuff as well (Shock horror, I know!) and if there’s something really widespread that isn’t on the same level of horrid as 4chan’s usual replies to something, you can show me, I’ll be waiting.

…You’re kidding, right?  I have firsthand witnessed multiple rape victims being victim-blamed for disagreeing with someone’s methods of “activism”.  They were called “rape enablers”, as if they actually invited the most traumatic experience of their lives onto themselves.  I have seen transwomen being called “men just trying to invade womens’ spaces”, and transmen being called “gender traitors just trying to obtainb privilege”.

On a painful number of occasions, I’ve seen others assuming the race, gender, and sexual orientations of others simply because those people did not agree with their views.  Hell - I’ve already had it happen to myself more times than I can remember.  I’ve seen genuinely disabled people being told they aren’t capable of thinking for themselves, as well as watched people talk over the top of minorities.

Overall, you have done nothing but hinge your “argument” on logical fallacies (come on, kids!  Let’s count them together!):  You used the Appeal to Worse Problems, the fallacy of Diminished Responsibility, Blind Loyalty, the fallacy of Tu Quoque, and Shifting the Burden of Proof.

If you honestly think tumblr is more welcoming than 4chan, then take a look at what tumblr “feminists” do to women who don’t agree with them:  Stalk and obsessively harass them (including sexual harassment).  Look at how many people on this site are threatened and bullied over the tiniest indiscretions.  I don’t know how good your eyes are, but if you can’t see a problem here, then you must be fucking blind.





You could just as easily that women’s issues are entirely because society deems them superior to men. Women being encouraged to not work, to not join the army or the police force, or any number of intersecting issues is because women’s lives are considered more valuable. 

Dismissing a group’s issues simply because of a hand-waved interpretation of them is enormously disingenuous, shallow, and frankly offensive. The millions of male rape, suicide, death on the job, murder, and violence victims are not helped by such 2-dimensional reasoning. You’re essentially blaming men for their own problems, and what kind of cruel reasoning is that? What would you say to a male victim of any of the above? “Sorry, but you’re part of a collective male consciousness that you periodically plug into that’s responsible for all the suffering in the world, so tough luck, and wait around for feminism to get to you?”

When people blame feminism for issues facing, they’re not talking about useless theories like that, they’re talking about facts. It’s a historical fact that men are considerably less likely to receive custody in divorces because of the Tender Years Doctrine, advocated for by feminists. Before that, during a time of considerably greater sexism, men received default custody because they were the breadwinners. Men are demonized as rapists and ignored as victims because of gendered feminist campaigns that paint rape as solely male-perpetrated. 

You’re so missing the point I don’t even know where to start. you have no idea what feminism is and I’m sure you don’t actually want to know. 

No I’m pretty sure I have a good idea. I mean, hear I am, listing the factual history of feminism, and inequalities feminism is responsible for, that you are apparently fantastically ignorant of. Considering that, who is really the person who doesn’t understand feminism here?

I’m not blaming men or individuals, I’m blaming power dynamics. Seriously, google ‘male hegemony’ and get some knowledge, it’s out there for free!

I’ve googled it before! Not my jam. It’s a theory with so many holes in it it might as well apply for full sponge status by the lords of cleaning supplies Hegemonies protect their privileged classes; we’ve seen white supremacist societies where white people experienced superior lives in the areas of longevity, disease, suicide, crime, accidents, childhood emotional disorders, mental illness rates in general, alcoholism, and drug addiction, funding for healthcare, net worth, suffrage, achievement at work, achievement in education. Meanwhile, in reality, these inequalities don’t all run one way like they do in other hegemonic societies, they’re evenly distribution with both men and women. Most of the statistics I listed are unequal with relation to men. If there’s a male hegemony it’s a terrible one that’s backfiring more than half the time lmao. 

More often than not, these arguments to justify criticizing men as a ‘power structure’ come off as thinly veiled bigotry, by which you blame a group for something they cannot help, like their form of sexual dimorphism. There’s no logical underpinning for it that justifies ‘male hegemony’ by itself; there just happens to also be no justification for bigotry. 

Just because you can think of a nice argument doesn’t mean it’s true. Women aren’t considered more ‘valuable’. it’s a fact that in our culture women are generally considered ‘fragile’ and incapable of doing anything else than caring.

That’s obviously not true, considering men were given default custody of children prior to the Tender Years Doctrine. So ‘caring’ clearly wasn’t inherently apart of society’s views towards women in all things. Yet, women still were not drafted and remain the minority of victims of violence in nearly every category. 

I mean lol, it’s pretty funny you’re complaining about my thinking up a nice argument, meanwhile you reference zero facts and expect people to take your poorly reasoned opinions as facts. They’re just theories. Clearly you’re not a science major of any sort, but in science massive amounts of evidence is needed for something to barely even be considered a theory. Just because you’ve convinced yourself of something, because it feels right, doesn’t mean it is. Come up with some serious basis in facts and economics and statistics for your theory, and then we’ll talk.

Plus, feminists never say that rape is solely male-perpetrated. 

I guess I know feminism better than you after all! Do you know the Don’t Be That Guy campaign in Edmonton? It’s a feminism campaign that genders rape and inherently implies it’s solely male-perpetrated. What about the Men Can Stop Rape campaign? Another feminism-inspired campaign that doesn’t mention male victims of rape at all, and implies men are solely responsible for rape. The fact that you’re ignorant of these campaigns really calls into question you’re credibility when you sit on a high horse demanding other people understand feminism, when you don’t seem to understand it on even a basic level.


W: The men’s rights movement, legitimate cause or laughable, and why?

Laughable, since men aren’t oppressed because of their gender. Of course men can face gender-related issues, but these issues are usually caused by the idea that men are and should be superior to women. So basically, men’s rights activists are blaming the wrong people, because that’s exactly what feminists are fighting against,

Anyway, thanks for asking! :)

it’s actually anti-feminists like you who say that men should ‘enjoy’ rape when it’s perpetrated by a woman.

I’m not an anti-feminist or an MRA, but wtf? First of all you’re lumping masses of people together to construct some convenient argument filled with straw, but second of all, here are some anti-feminists who discovered that there are about as many male rape victims as female rape victims. If they honestly believe that men should enjoy rape when they’re raped by women, why would they bring attention to male rape victims? You do realize that ‘anti-feminism’ isn’t a movement, right? There’s no unifying structure to it like there is with feminism. It’s like being anti-religion; it can include militant atheists who burn down churches, or ex-Catholics who have become disenchanted and live their daily lives doing something else. And much much more. I have received death and rape threats from feminists, so excuse me if I don’t take it seriously when you say feminists are sugar plum fairies with sparkles coming out of their vajayjays.